assume a totally opposite way of thinking than what I was trying to explain, then you are wasting your breath. I never said "just hit the sun of a bitch". I simply stated that if defensive driving fails to avoid a collision, its better to bump fenders and stay on the road than slide off the road and risk rolling over, hitting a tree, hitting a pedestrian, or slamming into a house. Im glad that didnt happen to him. I never failed that course BTW